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Herbert de Vermandois IV and Alix de Valois

Husband Herbert de Vermandois IV [19029] 1 

           Born: 1028 - Saint-Quentin, Département des Aisne, Hauts-de-France, France 1
     Christened: 
           Died: 23 Feb 1080 - Tarsus, Içel, Mersin, Türkiye 1
         Buried: 1080 - Abbey of Saint-Quentin, Saint-Quentin, Aisne, France. 1
FamilySearch ID: KCXK-S69


         Father: Eudes de Vermandois I [19031] (979-1045) 2
         Mother: Pavie de Ham [19032] (998-1045) 2


       Marriage:

Events

• TitleOfNobility: Count of Troyes, .

• TitleOfNobility: Count of Beaune, .

• TitleOfNobility: Count of Vermandois, 1045.

• Biography: Translation:
Heribert IV(VI) de Vermandois, Count of Vermandois (1032 - 1080)
Also Known As: "Herbert"
Birthdate: circa July 20, 1032
Birthplace: Vermandois, Normandy, France
Death: circa February 23, 1080 (39-55)
Tarsus, Tarsus, Cilicia, Asia Minor (Now Turkey)
Immediate Family:
Son of
Eudes, Count of Vermandois and
Ham Pavia
Husband of
Adelais de Valois et du Vexin, Countess of Valois and
Adelaide de Velois

Father of
Gerardus de Vermandois;
Adèle de Vermandois, Countess of Vermandois and Valois;
Eudes II, Count of Vermandois; Beatrice of Vermandois and Wauthier "iron coasts" Georgery

Brother of
Piers of Vermandois (fictional) and

Simon of Vermandois, Lord of Ham

Occupation: Count of Vermandois, Count of Valois, Count of Vermandois (1045-1078), of Valois (1077-1078), Count of Vermandois (1045-1080), Count of Valois (1077-1080)
Herbert IV was Count of Vermandois from 1045 to around 1080, known for his inheritance of the Valois fiefs and his alliance with the royal house of France through his marriage.

Biography and Origins
Born around 1028-1032, Herbert IV was the son of Otto of Vermandois, Count of Vermandois, and Pavia (or Parvia). He inherited from his father and became Count of Vermandois in 1045. In 1077, he also received as a fief part of the lands of his brother-in-law, Simon of Valois, thus becoming Count of Valois until his death around 1080.
Marriage and Descendants
Around 1059-1060, Herbert IV married Adelaide (also known as Alix), daughter of Raoul IV, Count of Vexin, Valois, and Amiens, and Adelaide of Bar-sur-Aube. This marriage established an important alliance with other great noble families of the kingdom.

They had at least two children:
Adelaide (c. 1062\endash 1122), who inherited the county after her brother's death. She first married Hugh I the Great, son of King Henry I of France, who then assumed the titles of Vermandois and Valois. After Hugh's death, she married Renaud, Count of Clermont.

Odo, known as "the Madman" (c. 1064\endash after 1085), was disinherited by his father, probably due to a perceived mental weakness.

Historical Role and Legacy
Herbert IV was notably present at the coronation of King Philip I of France. Through his marriage and the transfer of his lands to his daughter Adelaide, he brought the County of Vermandois directly into the orbit of the Capetian dynasty. After his death around 1080, his son-in-law, Hugh I the Great, became count, thus perpetuating the royal line in these lands.

This transition marked the end of the first House of Vermandois at the head of the county, of which Herbert IV was the last major representative.
Summary of Titles
Count of Vermandois (1045\endash 1080)
Count of Valois (1077\endash 1080, inherited from his brother-in-law Simon of Valois)
Herbert IV is thus a pivotal figure of the 11th century in the Picard nobility, embodying strategic dynastic alliances and the transmission of important fiefs within the French monarchy.


Original:
Heribert IV(VI) de Vermandois, comte de Vermandois (1032 - 1080)
Also Known As:"Herbert"
Birthdate:circa July 20, 1032
Birthplace:Vermandois, Normandy, France
Death:circa February 23, 1080 (39-55)
Tarsus, Tarsus, Cilicia, Asia Minor (Now Turkey)
Immediate Family:
Son of
Eudes, comte de Vermandois and
Pavie de Ham
Husband of
Adelais de Valois et du Vexin, Countess of Valois and
Adelaide de Velois

Father of
Gerardus de Vermandois;
Adèle de Vermandois, comtesse de Vermandois et Valois;
Eudes II, comte de Vermandois; Béatrice de Vermandois and Wauthier "côtes de fer" Georgery

Brother of
Piers de Vermandois (Fictitious) and
Simon de Vermandois, seigneur de Ham


Occupation:Comte de Vermandois, Count of Valois, Comte de Vermandois (1045-1078), de Valois (1077-1078), Comte de Vermandois (1045 - 1080), Comte de Valois (1077 - 1080)
Herbert IV fut comte de Vermandois de 1045 à environ 1080, connu pour son héritage des fiefs de Valois et son alliance avec la maison royale de France par son mariage.
Biographie et Origines
Né vers 1028-1032, Herbert IV était le fils d'Otton de Vermandois, comte de Vermandois, et de Pavie (ou Parvie). Il hérita de son père et devint comte de Vermandois en 1045. En 1077, il reçut également en fief une partie des domaines de son beau-frère Simon de Valois, devenant ainsi comte de Valois jusqu'à sa mort vers 1080.
Mariage et Descendance
Vers 1059-1060, Herbert IV épousa Adélaïde (aussi nommée Alix), fille de Raoul IV, comte de Vexin, de Valois et d'Amiens, et d'Adélaïde de Bar-sur-Aube. Ce mariage établit une alliance importante avec d'autres grandes familles nobles du royaume.
Ils eurent au moins deux enfants :
Adélaïde (vers 1062\endash 1122), qui hérita du comté à la suite de la déshérence de son frère. Elle épousa en premier Hugues Ier le Grand, fils du roi Henri Ier de France, qui reprit alors les titres de Vermandois et Valois. Après la mort d'Hugues, elle épousa Renaud, comte de Clermont.
Eudes, dit "l'Insensé" (vers 1064\endash après 1085), déshérité par son père, probablement pour des raisons liées à une supposée faiblesse d'esprit.
Rôle Historique et Héritage
Herbert IV fut présent notablement lors du sacre du roi Philippe Ier de France. Par son mariage et la transmission de ses domaines à sa fille Adélaïde, il fit entrer le comté de Vermandois dans l'orbite directe de la dynastie capétienne. Après sa mort vers 1080, son gendre Hugues Ier le Grand devint comte, perpétuant ainsi la lignée royale sur ces terres.
Cette transition marqua la fin de la première maison de Vermandois à la tête du comté, dont Herbert IV fut le dernier représentant majeur.
Résumé des Titres
Comte de Vermandois (1045\endash 1080)
Comte de Valois (1077\endash 1080, héritage de son beau-frère Simon de Valois)
Herbert IV est ainsi une figure charnière du XIe siècle dans la noblesse picarde, incarnant les alliances dynastiques stratégiques et la transmission des fiefs importants au sein de la royauté française.


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Wife Alix de Valois [19030] 1 

           Born: 1045 - Burgundy, France 1
     Christened: 
           Died: 12 May 1093 - Diocese of Nevers, France 1
         Buried: 
FamilySearch ID: 9CHC-9WV

Events

• TitleOfNobility: Countess of Valois, 1077.

• TitleOfNobility: Countess of Crépy, 1077.

• Title: Countess of Vermandois, 1061.

• Biography: Translated:
Adelaide of Valois, also known as Adelaide of Vexin, was an 11th-century French noblewoman from an influential lineage in northern France.

Origins and Family
Daughter of Raoul IV, Count of Valois, Vexin, and Amiens, and Adèle of Bar-sur-Aube

She belonged to the House of Vexin, a powerful family that held several strategic counties.

Marriage and Descendants
Around 1060, she married Herbert IV of Vermandois, Count of Vermandois.

Together, they had several children, including:

Odo, nicknamed "the Foolish," who was disinherited.

Adelaide of Vermandois, who married Hugh I of Vermandois, son of King Henry I.

Inheritance and Influence
In 1077, her brother Simon of Vexin renounced his titles to enter religious life.

The lands of Vexin were then divided, and Adelaide inherited Valois and Amiens, strengthening her husband's position.

Historical Confusion
She should not be confused with her sister Adele (or Alix) of Valois, who married Theobald III of Blois. This confusion is common in ancient sources.


Original
Adélaïde de Valois, aussi connue sous le nom d'Adélaïde du Vexin, était une noble française du XI? siècle, issue d'une lignée influente dans le nord de la France.

?? Origines et famille
Fille de Raoul IV, comte de Valois, de Vexin et d'Amiens, et d'Adèle de Bar-sur-Aube

Elle appartenait à la maison de Vexin, une famille puissante qui détenait plusieurs comtés stratégiques

?? Mariage et descendance
Vers 1060, elle épousa Herbert IV de Vermandois, comte de Vermandois

Ensemble, ils eurent plusieurs enfants, dont :

Eudes, surnommé "l'insensé", qui fut déshérité

Adélaïde de Vermandois, qui épousa Hugues Ier de Vermandois, fils du roi Henri Ier

?? Héritage et influence
En 1077, son frère Simon de Vexin renonça à ses titres pour entrer en religion

Les terres du Vexin furent alors partagées, et Adélaïde hérita du Valois et d'Amiens, renforçant la position de son mari

?? Confusion historique
Il ne faut pas la confondre avec sa sœur Adèle (ou Alix) de Valois, qui épousa Thibaut III de Blois. Cette confusion est fréquente dans les sources anciennes


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Children
1 F Adelaide de Vermandois [19018] 3 

           Born: 1058 - Lot-Et-Garonne, Aquitaine, France 3
     Christened: 
           Died: 23 Sep 1120 - Vermand, Aisne, Picardie, France 3
         Buried: After 23 Sep 1120 - Abbey of Saint-Pierre de Gand in Bruges, Flemish Region, Belgium. 3
FamilySearch ID: LDW5-N39

         Spouse: Hugues 'le Grand' de Vermandois comte de Vermandois 3 [19017] (1057-1101)

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Sources

1 The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, "FamilySearch Family Tree," database, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org : accessed 28 Nov 2025), entry for Adelaide de Vermandois, person ID LDW5-N39.

2 The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, "FamilySearch Family Tree," database, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org : accessed 28 Nov 2025), entry for Herbert de Vermandois, person ID KCXK-S69.

3 The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, "FamilySearch Family Tree," database, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org : accessed 28 Nov 2025), entry for Elizabeth Isabel de Vermandois, person ID MXWH-HJ8.

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